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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - Penn State's former president told investigators that he knew better than to jump to conclusions that Jerry Sandusky's "horsing around" in a university shower naked with a boy could have been sexual in nature.

Graham Spanier made the comment during April 2011 grand jury testimony that was read aloud for the first time in a Harrisburg courtroom Tuesday.

The hearing for Spanier and two other former university officials is to decide whether there's enough evidence to warrant a trial on the charges against them in the child-sex abuse scandal.

Prosecutors say the defendants failed to tell police about a sex-abuse allegation against Sandusky in 2001. But the defendants say they weren't told that Sandusky was molesting the boy.

Police also investigated complaints about Sandusky showering with boys in 1998, but Spanier says he knew nothing about that.

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